THIS is the reason the heating companies have zone heating. Answer: You will need to review your homeowner's policy to see if this heater is covered. Asked store manager about the eden pure heater and when we looked online, the same 1500 watt unit is rated at the same 5000+ btu's. For your reference, I use Lasko heaters in my home and office. Infrared heaters are efficient and fast, and can also be a good choice for fast zone heating as they have fans (with all the consequences I mentioned above). A company of integrity that believes all the implications of their own commercial to be true would have no problem warranteeing for one year and paying return costs for the "so few that would come back. so I'm told we will send you another RFH I don't think so on the customer service center letterhead it states OUR GOAL IS IOO% CUSTOMER SATISFACTION. Issues of safety, durability, and return on investment must be considered before purchasing one of the most expensive portable infrared heaters on the market. Bobby Burkett ( Logan Huffman) is a promising quarterback for a struggling high-school football team. My electric bill sky rocketed, can't think of anything positive where Edenpure heaters are concerned. Suarez Manufacturing Industries / Pinnacle Systems, did no component life testing at all during the Edenpure US-1000 / Gen4 product development. Electric heat is VERY expensive, no matter how much you pay for your heater. Today's top 108 Human Resources jobs in Roubaix, Hauts-de-France, France. The USA has turned into a scam hotbed. . Bought one of the USA made heaters last year and found the heater to be less effective than any of the other electric heaters I have used in the past. 2 Guys with a beard does not equal credibility. You are just cutting costs by heating a smaller areasomething you could have done without a $400 space heater. i have one, and believe me it has paid for itself, i have hot water heat powered by natural gas. You don't need an EdenPURE product to close vents around your home, not in use. It can be a $20 heater from Walmart or a $400 Eden Pure. When the heating fuel prices were high, Quartz heaters helped by heating the rooms you lived in during the day and so the funace runs less. Well, come to my house, put you hands in front of each item and we will see which one you pull away from first! The heater is a point source of heat. I have three EdenPure heaters that work wonderfully! The claims include: There are a few ways to use a portable electric heater to save money: Electric heaters are not an efficient way to heat a home cheaply. Bill Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. What a bunch of scam artists. I am preparing to do that now. I purchased several other type of quartz heaters for back up heating source. Now, if that is not a scam, a come on, a lead in, I don't know what it. Unfortunately the answer is "No, the efficiency is identical.". About the same. has anyone else had this problem and if so can you advise me? Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on October 31, 2011: John, it should remind you of every politician. You could heat an inner room to 70 degrees with the EdenPure for maybe $60/month ($0.15/kWh * 12 hrs/day * 30 days) while dropping the thermastat on the rest of the house to 50 degrees, reducing your heating bill by 40% (assuming avg temp outside is 20 degrees) saving $200/month on natural gas, thereby saving you about $140/month overall! He went to the furnace room and found it comfortably warm, which he attributed to the retention and re-radiation of heat from a sheet of "cured copper" stored there. Regular price. If not there could be an additional charge etc,. EdenPUREs manufacturer makes several claims about its heater. There are millions of happy customers who are telling their friends. So I am not really surprised. A btu is a btu is a btu. Space heater with pretreated heat exchanger Patent number: 7046918 Thanks. I starting contacting the company and finally did receive a return shipping label. Every one I talked to loves there eden pure I going to get one this weekend worth it. Thanks for pointing this out for those of us who are scam recognizably challenged. Eden Pure is a scam because the details are hidden in clever word usage the average person, many of them on here I see, cannot grasp. I live on a mountain in Colorado. Since electric space heaters convert almost all the electricity into heat, they are all equally efficient. Last night it was 24 degrees outside, and inside my living area may have been 60 in the middle of the night, but with daylight, the temp in my living area was 64. Edenpure heaters are CRAP. Most space heaters like EdenPure use electricity to produce heat. I bet they will not stand behind the heater because you cannot get anyone to answer the phone and they just want you to give up. Ive been heating the entire house with 3 Edenpure heaters (only turn on one downstairs when Im there). I was told that they were still processing my order and that it would have been sent out this week (SURE). It does not lie if you read carefully, but still, misdirection, celebrity endorsement, and colorful marketing meant to make the consumer believe overblown claims cannot make the EdenPURE portable electric heater anything but a scam. Would i recommend them? The facade is added over the top without touching except for where fastened. I told her that I wanted my order cancelled and it was I hope. If a company goes out of its way to rectify a customers complaint, it not only does away with the complaint but provides a more loyal customer than if the cause of the complaint had never happened. The Gen 3 and 4 buyers beware, you're just the new victoms, your heating bulbs will probably be higher, because they are newer and new and improved. Facts Buddy Fast, Factual, Free USA. Sale price $247.00 Sale. to produce those BTUs. Im just another sucker. We. rooms for rent in. They are thu the wall units that look like AC units they are about 12k to 15k btu each.A heat pump is about 1 to 3 energy gain $1 in you get $3 out.Dont be fooled by the snake oil salesman. Received a reconditioned unit a week ago. Why do you think they would do that? Have i used them. In Feb of 08 I had to order replacement bulbs, they cost $59.00 for the 1000. I use two in my basement that have been working constant for three years (except for the summer months) and still work fine. They have two 1000 watt and 1500 watt settings and will heat 200 sq feet, but from what I read, the 1500 watt setting is using more electricity. How long do the bulbs last, how much do they cost, and does a technician have to do the work? The heat is a soft even heat and is extremely comfortable. if you live in california, with the EDEN pURE ,PGAETOLD ME THAT IT CAN COST YOU AS HIGH AS 50 CENTS AN HOUR TO RUN IT.my bill is usually 200 in the wintertime,for one month my electricity bill shot up to$360 and i had a saving of $28,gas. Several EdenPURE heaters have been tested and compared against Lasko electric heaters. Stay warm everyone!! Another thing that I doubt some of you would do to save $$$ on your electricity is to get used to the early morning cooler temps by wearing sweats. One of the most important features and benefits of the Eden Pure vs one of the $50 that may heat the same space I would not trust most of those $50 heaters or anything that can be turned over easily and I certainly would never leave my home with one of those heaters on. If you read EdenPURE ads carefully, you will note they insinuate you only have to heat the room you are in. Other heaters I've used don't keep the rooms warm because the controls don't allow the versatility that the EdenPure does. The laws of physics, which can't be changed, say they'll both do the same thing. Why oil-filled? Is the $300 Edenpure any better than a regular $20 electric space heater for any purpose? The space heater is thermally more efficient than a comparable space heater wherein the copper or aluminum has not been pretreated. I called the company so I could exchane it but I have to pay shipping. A portable electric heater can keep small rooms warmer without heating the remainder of the home to a higher temperature. I am not endorsing any unit of any other just telling my experience with this unit, so do what you will with my comment. It's CFM rate is horrible vs. a fan forced electric heater. 2) a btu, Also, for anyone who's interested, the fans in the small forced air heaters typically fail after about two years. Nice flat spot for debris. I will never buy another one and will tell others not to, they are well overrated. The Air King 8132 1500 watt ceramic space heater covers areas up to 150 square feet. You'll love it. CLAIM: [Other heaters with] cheap ceramic plates reduce humidity. Saying you might cut your heating bill in half is a lie. Any way, thank you. Has anyone specifically gone from a traditional electric space heater (ONLY) to an Eden and found an improvement in their electric bill? I don't know where one of these people learned their math, but a 300 sq ft room is not a 6 x 7. Any typical portable electric space heater of 1000-2000 W will produce exactly the same amount of heat as EdenPure. I would rather have on sweats, even with another shirt under and be comfortable with my $200. What a fiasco-I will never purchase anything from Edenpure or anything associated with Bob Villa. My personal choice - an oil-filled radiator, with the price tag of around $40 to $60. This guy can't read apparently. If a simple electric space heater can cut energy consumption by 50 percent, then the government may wish to promote the product with tax incentives in order to break Americas dependence on foreign oil. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). I guess after all those years pushing Sears tools, Villa decided to push yet another scam. The customer service for these things is terrible, they leave you waiting on line for long periods listen to a recording telling you over and over you will wait less than a minute. ANY 1500 watt electric heater will give you the exact amount of heat, no matter how much, or how little you pay for it. It was almost exactly a year ago when I first saw the EdenPure heater advertised and I warned readers to take caution when believing some of the claims. Heat from any 1500 watt electric heater will cost you $35.60 for 1 million btus of heat if you are paying 12 cents a KWH. I love it. Many people who complain about heat pump performance (it blows cold air, it's expensive to operate, etc.) Bill Burkett lives in Boerne, TX; previous cities include Helotes TX and San Antonio TX. Bob Vila was dropped by Sears for problems with post job problems and costs associated. This is an all electric home the highest electric bill in the winter has been $276 . William W. Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. Why would Villa want to be associated with this ?? Vince DeAntonio ( D. B. Sweeney) is a former college football offensive coordinator, who abruptly resigned five years earlier, and has now become coach at the high school. My wife and I have found that our electric and gas power bills have gone down by more than half, each (we have a gas furnace) since we started using our Life Smart brand infrared heater. All EdenPURE does is dress it up and jack the price to the stratosphere. It has exactly the same power of 1000 to 2000 Watts as everything else including EdenPure. Unh uh !! And Bob Vila?he seems to be trading his trusted reputation for money. These systems the japanese use do not use ducts!!! Also the heat is much nicer than baseboard heat- it feels warm and it stays comfortable. The first heater I got didn't run long before one of the elements went out. They don't claim it will save you money. Gas burners are a hazard in a barn with hay even if only in a side utility room. No repairs either. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 01, 2011: It looks like we are starting another season of the heater scam. Don't buy Edenpure heater they are scammer. I did buy a small Pelonis ceramic heater 20 years ago for $100, and it still works. Leverage your professional network, and get hired. It will cost more. d.william from Somewhere in the south on December 01, 2011: Good article. I have a completely electric home and wanted to reduce my electric bill as it is very high now. Are the so called experts on here thick or something. So why pay a few hundred dollar for a space heater when you can pick one up at your local big box store for $30? KALAMAZOO/PORTAGE heating & air conditioning/hvac. Is anyone anymore really honest? If you look at the stats, they use far more electricity..the ones I just looked at on the Green Site do and they are not inexpensive. Just picked one from trash. Mr.Vila and Eden Pure do you really think it is fair game on humanity to peddle your wares on them? They promote using zone heating to save money. I have natural gas heat and now I like it even more. This means it produces 5118 BTU of heat. Al Metcalf if you want to call them stupid go right ahead anyone with half a brain can debunk your hair dryer vs heat gun theory. EdenPURE Classic CopperPLUS Heater $272.00 $399.00 Best Sellers EdenPURE 3000 Whole House Air Purifier by AirFree $299.00 $374.00 EdenPURE GEN50 Infrared Heater $297.00 $399.00 EdenPURE GEN40 Heater $247.00 $447.00 EdenPURE Bio SpeedCLEAN Cordless Vac - Model XL200 $249.00 $299.00 EdenPURE GEN21 EdenPURE All Season Heater $279.00 $447.00 3) Infrared doesn't just heat air molecules, it also heats water molecules (humidity) as it passes through an infrared heat exchanger. I just looked them up, and they are 42.99 plus 9.95 shipping. That scenario assumes that you have to heat only a single room to heat at a time or that you own multiple EdenPure space heaters; that once you're in a room you stay put and don't move around the house; and that you're willing to keep the rest of your home at a chilly 50F. Get them sealed (don't use 'duct tape', go to a Home Depot or other type store or your htg and A/c dealer or service person and ask them what type sealing tape or other to seal the ductwork). You still need them. The EdenPure heater uses 1500 Watts. Jones was last found registered under his obviously fictional name in a cheap motel in the company of a dubious woman. A good quality heat pump with good ductwork WILL outperform straight resistance electric heat. I use the original carton for storing my heater in the off months. Television ads do not tell you shipping is charged if you have problems and need to send them back. I to have an Edenpure system that I purchased for my basement. I could not see any savings at all. do EVERYTHING that these $400 dollar SNAKE OIL heaters do!! Now if your heating a whole home that uses gas or electric and close off several rooms and used the eden pure to heat a few rooms, sure you will save money. Sorry about the math confusion, but I really did mean cubic feet, not square feet. Out of stock at this time though. Some are made in China using cheap bulbs and some are made in the usa. About 8 years ago, I got an estimate for ZONE HEATING for my home including the garage. 1500 watts of electric heat will cost you the same in a $20.00 heater, or a ripoff $400.00 one. After calling the hardware store that sold the heater was told I would have to contact the company who finally sent a shipping label but the instructions say that you must use the original box. My only issue is that the second year it started turning off all the time for no reason and now it's just sitting in my spare room doing nothing. You get what you pay for, and many manufactured homes do not put the quality into their heating systems, ductowrk, etc. I have tried to return it for refund, but had to have the ORIGINAL shipping container, which I do not have after 2+ months, and neither Bass Pro Outlet nor Edenpure will accept the return w/o original shipping box, which Edenpure will NOT sell me because they say they only have one container per heater produced. In some situations yes but in some no. The heated air is still coming through the ductwork, and when it reaches the closed vent, it has built up pressure which makes that much more of your heated air be lost through the small openings between the pieces of ductwork. And yes the personal heater that heats 50 s f is only the size Of a prison cell. The heat output from an electric heater goes directly into the room, without being lost to the leaky ductwork, that may be part of the reason that people observe that the electric heaters (edenPure or otherwise) appear to "solve their heating problems" !! Well, it looks like EdenPure is at it again, this time with a TV commercial! I don't know about most of you, but in the coldest 3 months of the year here, my bill runs over $500. Yes, it is not as fast as any heater with a blower, however having that even heat is much more comfortable and healthy. Nothing has changed. Many times, the ductwork system in these homes are the coiled ductwork types that gets holes poked in it, or is otherwise leaky ductwork. I will check the duct for cracks and insulation and if I want to get cheaper, I'll look into the Sun. Click a location below to find Bill more easily. It just says if you use an Eden Pure heater to do "zone heating"I you will save money. I did consider the possibility of buying one, but after reading your hub i re-read the brochure and realized that this was also extremely misleading without actually lying. I am not so egotistical to refuse to admit that I was taken and that Edenpure sells grossly overpriced junk. 1500w in one heater is not the same as 1500w in another using different tech to generate heat. With the economy and everyone wanting to save money, it is shameful that Mr. Villa put his name on this product. I was about to order an eden pure online when I saw this site and decided to read consumer comments first. My best friend bought two, I told her not to do it. they will endorse anything for a price . AND I MEAN THAT SINCERELY. If you can't understand that then you must be stupid. I'll definitely buy another. I have read some very interesting posts on this website and one thing I can tell you is, you can spot the smart persons from the not so smart persons. In response to my last post, I can afford a 300.00 loss due to this scam, but what about the next person. We bought an Eden Pure Gen 1000 a month and a half ago and lo and behold our electric company called today because they noticed a huge spike in our usage, as a matter of fact our usage has more than doubled. I also have a $39.99 portable oil radiator heater that I purchased from Lowes. But, to satisfy the originator of this, no I would not buy another EdenPure. I'm currently waiting for my new EdenPURE 360, do you have an opinion about this one? I have a utility room in my barn that requires an electric heater. Most heat guns even have a little twist flap on the back which does this to the heat gun so you can adjust the heat output it has nothing but coving up the airflow to adjust temp. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on December 18, 2010: Joe T, I wrote this article after testing the EdenPURE heater. 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